Mission Statement - De-Spinning the Pro-Taser Propaganda

Yeah right, 'Excited Delirium' my ass...


The primary purpose of this blog is to provide an outlet for my observations and analysis about tasers, taser "associated" deaths, and the behaviour exhibited by the management, employees and minions of Taser International. In general, everything is linked back to external sources, often via previous posts on the same topic, so that readers can fact-check to their heart's content. This blog was started in late-2007 when Canadians were enraged by the taser death of Robert Dziekanski and four others in a short three month period. The cocky attitude exhibited by the Taser International spokespuppet, and his preposterous proposal that Mr. Dziekanski coincidentally died of "excited delirium" at the time of his taser-death, led me to choose the blog name I did and provides my motivation. I have zero financial ties to this issue.

Monday, June 30, 2008

Billo talks of 'naked skinny guys'

Billo wrote: "The bottom line is that to induce ventricular fibrillation, it is necessary to get the probe very close to the myocardium. That means, essentially, that it is necessary to shoot a naked skinny guy between ribs in the lower chest on the left just next to the sternum."

Taser proudly states that the taser can penetrate up to two inches of insulating clothing using the 50kV arc phase to generate an ionized path. They claim that the device works in exactly the same manner up to this two inch limit. Therefore the words 'naked skinny' are in direct contradiction to the manufacturer's product specification and claims. In this instance I believe that Taser is correct and Billo's statement ("naked skinny") is therefore obviously not correct.

Also, once the current enters the body, it will travel in a path (or paths) set by Kirchhoff's circuit laws. And anyone that claims to have made a computer model of the human body sufficiently complicated to achieve an accurate outcome, complete with Monte Carlo variations of all variables... I seriously doubt it. And the current path can be set with only one dart landing in a critical area. The second dart placement would be less critical by those same circuit laws.

IIRC, Taser has made tests that demonstrate the superior accuracy of the taser of the similar products from Stinger Systems. In other words, if the officer aims at the chest, the top barb is likely to land on the chest. To claim multi-million odds of having a dart land in the sensitive location is simply very poor math. A subject would have to be 10m wide and 10m tall to get a 0ne-square cm location into the 1-in-a-million odds. And that assumes that the aim is random. It is just nonsense.

And finally, if you're now admitting that the taser waveform is capable of causing ventricular fibrillation and that a major part of the safety factor is simply dart placement (literally, the luck of the draw), then we are finding something that we can agree on.

Consider your arguments shredded.


billo said...

Clearly, you have not bothered to read the research I am referring to. Your response would be more meaningful if you actually addressed the data presented. Read the article. If you really want to see the research, you can download Hyongyu Sun's thesis at:


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